Tuesday, December 06, 2011

drag2share: Kogan advertises Samsung LCDs in its HDTVs, Samsung would rather not take credit

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/06/kogan-advertises-samsung-lcds-in-its-hdtvs-samsung-would-rather/

It won't be shocking to most in the electronics industry, but the rest of the world probably doesn't realize that many products use components from other manufacturers and even direct competitors. So much like most hard drives are made by one of only a few companies, there are only about four LCD panel manufacturers. But just because it's Samsung inside doesn't make it the same, and in that vein Samsung took pause with the Australian value-minded brand, Kogan, when its commercial very plainly exposed just who makes the panels in its TVs . The cease and desist notice didn't sit well with Ruslan Kogan, who claims his company never agreed to obscure that fact and that he wouldn't "conceal the truth from the public." While we usually wish everyone could just get along, we can totally see where Samsung is coming from on this one, as there is far more involved in making a quality TV, beyond sourcing a great panel.

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Monday, December 05, 2011

drag2share: Ainol launches the NOVO7, the world's first Android 4.0 tablet, for $100 plus shipping

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/05/ainol-launches-the-novo7-the-worlds-first-android-4-0-tablet/

Just as we were geeking out to the Jaguar 7's Ice Cream Sandwich demo and anxiously awaiting the Transformer Prime, Ingenic and MIPS completely took us by surprise by announcing the Ainol-branded NOVO7, the very first commercially available tablet with Ice Cream Sandwich officially loaded. To be specific, the device isn't brand new -- it's been previously available as a Honeycomb tablet and is now shipping with ICS pre-loaded. It's packing an Ingenic JZ4770 mobile applications processor and 1GHz MIPS-based XBurst CPU, which means this Android 4.0 slab isn't going to be the toughest workhorse in the market. What more would you expect from a $99 tablet?

The Novo7 also comes with a 7-inch capacitive touchscreen, a Vivante GC860 GPU clocked at 444MHz, 1080p video decoding, rear 2MP camera with VGA front-facing cam, USB 2.0, HDMI 1.3, microSD slot and an endorsement from Andy Rubin himself. If temptation is just too much to overcome, you can head over to the More Coverage link to order one. However, if you'd rather wait a while to save a few bucks in shipping -- it's over half the cost of the tablet itself -- MIPS informed us that it'll be coming to the States and other parts of the world over "the next several months," and 8- and 9-inch versions of the NOVO are in the works as well. Head below for a video and press release. Oh, and existing NOVO7 customers may be wondering why their tablet hasn't received ICS yet; MIPS assured us that there's an upgrade path for those customers as well, though no announcements have been made.

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drag2share: Asus Padfone with Tegra 3 coming in early 2012

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/05/asus-padfone-with-tegra-3-coming-in-early-2012/

Just as we were settling down to another calm and banterful Engadget Mobile Podcast, our special guest had to go and throw us some hard news. Yup, and rather than making you sit through the entire two-hour recording (pleasant as that would be), we're just going to come right out with it: Nicole Scott from netbooknews.com has it on good authority that the Asus Padfone will be coming out at MWC 2012 in February. What's more, it won't be powered by a Qualcomm Krait S4 as suggested by that strange GLBenchmark we saw earlier -- it will in fact sport a Tegra 3, just like its highly capable big bro the Transformer Prime. See? That's the kind of juicy reward our podcast listeners get for tuning in each week.

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drag2share: Leaked Intel roadmap hints at Ivy Bridge's future

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/05/leaked-intel-roadmap-hints-at-ivy-bridges-future/

Considering how frequently Intel roadmaps leak out, you have to wonder which super-spy is smuggling all those diplomatic bags out of Santa Clara. The latest seems to contain detailed plans for 2012's Ivy Bridge desktop chips (and the sad news that the release has been pushed back to Q2). There are no big surprises in the documents, since the company just shrunk some Sandy Bridge CPUs in the wash. Going down from a 32nm to 22nm microarchitecture has managed to wring 19 percent better power usage, which enabled Chipzilla to concentrate on beefing up the range's integrated graphics performance, making it (reportedly) 60 percent faster than its bigger brother. The chipset will sit neatly atop your current Sandy Bridge motherboards, (You'll just need to flash your BIOS), which is good because we're stuck with the asthmatic, geriatric processor for at least another few months.

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drag2share: Samsung teases flexible, transparent display in concept video

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/05/samsung-teases-flexible-transparent-display-in-concept-video/

Samsung's flexible display technology isn't slated to hit the market until 2012, but the Korean manufacturer is already giving us a glimpse of how it may transform our lives, with a freshly released concept video. Yes, it's just a concept ad, and a relatively brief one at that, but it still paints a pretty mouth-watering portrait -- one full of transparent, flexible screens, smartphone-tablet hybrids, and augmented reality. Check it out for yourself, after the break.

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drag2share: Fujitsu Arrows ES IS12F coming to Japan next year: thick name, thin phone

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/05/fujitsu-arrows-es-is12f-coming-to-japan-next-year-thick-name-t/

KDDI's au network in Japan has revealed that it'll be stocking the slender Fujitsu Arrows ES IS12F starting January 2012. Fujitsu fans may recall seeing a very similar handset with the same (mostly) 6.7mm profile when NTT DoCoMo's version sashayed into those stuffy FCC offices. The phone runs on a single core processor, which is responsible for powering the image-stabilizing five megapixel camera and Gingerbread OS. The 4-inch, 480 x 800 AMOLED screen is cocooned in the same water resistant armor found on other Arrows devices, helping to protect those essential keitai functions like the One-Seg digital TV tuner and IR receiver. The skinny smartphone will go on sale in both black and red options on KIDDI, while NTT DoCoMo customers will have to settle for black.

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drag2share: LG reveals X-Note Z330 Ultrabook, claims it cold boots in ten seconds

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/05/lg-reveals-x-note-z330-ultrabook-claims-it-cold-boots-in-ten-se/

Not to be confused with the bulkier P330 13.3-incher we saw last month, the new X-Note Z330 looks to have toned up to gain membership to the mwah-mwah Ultrabook clique. It's a mere 14.7mm (0.58-inches) in thickness, 1.21kg (2.67 pounds) in weight and sports a solid state drive to help it boot up in under ten seconds. What's not so Ultrabookish, however, is the price: the Z330 has been announced in Korea starting at ₩1,700,000 ($1,500) for the Core i5 variant with 4GB RAM, a 120GB SSD and a fairly usual range of connectivity, including HDMI, USB 3.0 and Intel WiDi for streaming content wirelessly to your HDTV. Opting for a Core i7 and a 256GB SSD will add a hefty ₩900,000 ($800) on top of that. We've duly prepared a rant about value for money, but we're going to save it until there's official US price tag instead.

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Sunday, December 04, 2011

drag2share: New Li-ion Battery Design Boosts Energy Capacity and Charge Rate 10-Fold

Source: http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-11/new-li-ion-battery-design-boosts-energy-capacity-and-charge-rate-10-fold

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For years, battery designers have been looking for the next big thing in energy storage technology that could replace the lithium-ion batteries currently found in everything from laptops to smartphones to cars. It turns out they may have simply needed to rethink the existing li-ion battery. Northwestern University researchers have re-engineered a lithium-ion battery that can hold ten times the charge of current batteries on the market, and can charge ten times faster.

The trick: a redesigned anode that addresses the two main issues holding li-ion batteries back--charge capacity and charge rate. Li-ion batteries work via a chemical reaction in which lithium ions are swapped between two ends of a battery (known as the anode and the cathode). As energy is burned by a device, ions travel from where they are stored in the anode through an electrolyte to the cathode. In the process, electrical charge is passed to the device as the ions make the transition through the electrolyte. When the battery charges, the ions move in the opposite direction, from cathode to anode.

Current anode design is based on graphene sheets--one-atom-thick layers of carbon--that store the lithium ions. But these anodes can only store one lithium atom for every six carbon atoms, a rather low charge density. Designers have experimented with materials like silicon, which can hold four lithium atoms for every silicon atom, but silicon tends to expand and contract significantly during the charge process, causing it to fragment. This naturally reduces the lifetime of the anode.

A graphene-based design also slows the charge rate. Because of the geometry of graphene sheets--very thin but very long--lithium ions have to make a long trip to the edges of the graphene sheets and then push their way inside. This causes a kind of ion bottleneck around the edges of the anode and slows the charge rate significantly.

The NU team sawed through these problems significantly by rethinking the anode and incorporating a hybrid graphene-silicon design that boosts capacity and charge rate at the same time. First, they sandwiched layers of silicon in between the graphene sheets, allowing greater numbers of lithium ions to come to rest there. The silicon still expands and contracts during charging and discharging, but the flexibility of the graphene still holds the anode together. The silicon can fragment but it still stays in place, allowing the anode to hold greater charge.

The team then used chemical oxidation to punch tiny holes in the graphene sheets--just 10 to 20 nanometers across--so the lithium ions can move through the graphene rather than having to go around to the edges of the anode (where the traffic jams were occurring). This shortcut allow lithium ions to pile into the anode quickly during the charge process, giving charge rates a 10-fold shot in the arm.

And that's just the anode. The researchers next plan to rethink the cathode to further boost efficiency and effectiveness. The better li-ion battery could hit the marketplace in the next three to five years.

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drag2share: Whaaa? The original Motorola LapDock can now be yours for $50

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/04/whaaa-the-original-motorola-lapdock-can-now-be-yours-for-50/

Remember the good 'ol days (specifically, this past February) when the first Motorola LapDock cost as much as $500 up front and nearly got laughed out of AT&T stores? The sleek Webtop accessory compatible with the Motorola Atrix 4G -- and no other device whatsoever -- has come down a long way, as it's now available for a mere $50 (not counting the more expensive 4GB data plan AT&T requires you to be on when using it, of course). Indeed, it appears that a whole zero has been shaved off of the LapDock's price tag, finally making it a tempting deal for anyone still packing the Atrix around. We're thinking that AT&T's trying to clear out remaining stock prior to giving the dock a proper retirement, but does this lower cost give you pause to consider purchasing one after all this time? If so, head to the source to take another look.

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drag2share: Top 10 Photoshop Tricks You Can Use Without Buying Photoshop [Video]

Source: http://lifehacker.com/5864755/top-10-photoshop-tricks-you-can-do-without-buying-photoshop

Top 10 Photoshop Tricks You Can Use Without Buying PhotoshopYou can do just about anything to an image with Photoshop, but if you don't have the cash to shell out, free program the GIMP—available for Windows, Linux, and OS X—can take you pretty far. Here are our favorite Photoshop how-tos that also work in the GIMP.

Note: If you're looking for a more native image editor on OS X, you might want to check out Seashore. It can't do everything the GIMP can do, but it comes pretty close, and runs much better on Macs.

10. Enhance and Touch Up Photos with Color Correction and More

Retouching photos is one of the first basics of Photoshop we covered in our night school, and you have most of those tools available in the GIMP as well. You don't have the advanced histogram that Photoshop does, but you can access the Color Balance, Levels, and Curves tools under the Colors menu in the toolbar. The closest equivalent of Photoshop's "Auto Tone" feature is the White Balance tool under Colors > Auto, and you'll find the Healing Brush and Clone Stamp tool in GIMP's toolbox, with the familiar stamp and bandage icons near the bottom of the topmost pane.

9. Remove Red Eye

Top 10 Photoshop Tricks You Can Use Without Buying PhotoshopThose of us with lighter colored eyes always seem to look like the devil in certain pictures, and while you can remove those red eyes with a program like Picasa, you'll get much better results if you take the time to do it manually. We've talked about how to do it in Photoshop before, and the process is identical in the GIMP—the only thing you need to know is that to change the layer's Blending Mode, just click the "Mode" dropdown at the top of the "Layers, Channels, Paths, Undo" toolbar.

8. Whiten Teeth

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su4nXX0aKcs Whitening teeth is easy in Photoshop, but requires a tad more work in the GIMP. the GIMP doesn't have a "Sponge" tool like Photoshop, you can emulate it by creating a new layer, making saturation changes to that layer, and then using the eraser to isolate the teeth. You can find more information about this technique at this GIMP user forum thread. The GIMP does have a Dodge tool, however, so you won't have to do anything differently there—it's the last button in the top pane of the toolbox.

7. Remove Blemishes

None of us are perfect, and if you want to remove a few blemishes from your photos, it's just as easy to do in the GIMP as it is in Photoshop. Like we said above, the Clone Stamp and Healing Brush tools are right there in the GIMP, and the Resynthesizer plugin works much like the Content-Aware Fill introduced in Photoshop CS5. With a combination of all three, you can banish that blemish and make it look as if it was never there.

6. Brighten Up a Specific Part of an Image

Brightening up just one portion of an image is easy, no matter what editor you're using. We've already discussed the tools necessary—mainly the Levels, Curves, and other color adjustment tools—so doing it in the GIMP is just a matter of learning the technique and knowing where the tools reside in GIMP instead of Photoshop. Check out our video tutorial to see how it's done.

5. Create Easy Reflections of Any Image

you want a cool reflection effect on some text or other image, it's incredibly easy to do, and actually just uses basic tools. Our video tutorial uses Photoshop, but you can flip an image in the GIMP from the Image > Transform menu, and all your eraser options are in the Toolbox, right where you'd expect them to be.

4. Extract Your Subject and Put Them on a New Background

We talked about this in our how-to on altering reality with Photoshop, and it's fairly easy to do in the GIMP as well. GIMP doesn't have a separate Polygonal Lasso tool, but you can still select areas in the same way with the regular lasso tool. Instead of clicking and dragging, just single-click different areas to get a polygonal selection. In fact, in the GIMP, you can even mix freehand and polygonal segments in one selection by hitting the "F" key as you select. You don't really have a Background Eraser either, but you can get similar effects by selecting the Brush tool, setting the mode to Color Erase, and setting the foreground color to the color you want to erase. The Magic Wand tool can also get the job done if your foreground and background are different enough.

3. Fix Distorted Images

Sometimes your photos don't turn out exactly as you wanted, and to fix distortion, you can just use Photoshop's Liquify tool. GIMP doesn't have a tool by that name, but you can get a very similar effect by heading to Filters > Distorts > Iwarp. You can try out other distorts as well, but Iwarp should take you wherever you need to go. Remember, it can take a little practice to get good at, so don't get discouraged with this one—it's tough.

2. Change a Specific Color

While Photoshop has a one-click color replacement tool, the GIMP doesn't—but that's okay, because doing it manually will probably get you better results (besides, it builds character). Like I said above, you can just use the regular Lasso as a Polygonal Lasso, and all the other tools in the video are available in GIMP right from the menus (as discussed above). The only thing that isn't obvious is how to change the blending mode of a layer. In the GIMP, this is right at the top of the Layers, Channels, Paths, Undo toolbar, under the "Mode" dropdown.

1. Create Instagram-Like Effects

Top 10 Photoshop Tricks You Can Use Without Buying PhotoshopUnfortunately, emulating old-school Instagram-type effects in the GIMP is not as easy as in Photoshop. If you're using Photoshop, you can just download a couple of Photoshop actions, but these won't work in newer versions of the GIMP. However, doing them manually usually isn't hard—our friends at the How-To Geek have already shown us how to make the Nashville and Lord Kelvin effects, and a quick Google search should reveal details on any other effect you want. If you're lucky, you might be able to find GIMP plugins that simulate them, too, like this Lomo plugin or this vintage plugin, though there don't seem to be as many that perfectly emulate Instagram's filters. Doing it manually might take a little longer, but it gives you more control and, ultimately, a better image, so it's worth the work.


Photoshop and the GIMP aren't exactly equals, but with a bit of ingenuity, you can get pretty far with free software, no matter what you're trying to do. For more Photoshop tricks, check out our #photoshop tag, and when it comes to finding comparable tools and tricks in GIMP, remember that Google is your friend. If you're trying to do it, chances are someone else has tried before, and found a solution. Got any of your own image editing tricks that work in the GIMP? Share them with us in the comments.

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drag2share: Mirror Box + Digital Camera = Instant Holiday Desktop Wallpaper [Image Cache]

Source: http://gizmodo.com/5864742/mirror-box-%2B-digital-camera--instant-holiday-desktop-wallpaper/gallery/1

Mirror Box + Digital Camera = Instant Holiday Desktop WallpaperIf you're not already swamped this time of year, here's a fun experiment you can do with a compact digital camera, a box made of mirrors, and any holiday themed items you might have lying around.

Ron Brinkmann created this easy-to-build project that really only requires you to know how to use duct tape and your camera's self-timer. Once you've got your scene set up inside you just drop your camera in with a few seconds countdown, put a mirror lid on top and wait for the results. It also provides the rare occasion to use your camera's built-in flash as a way to actually improve your photos, instead of just over-exposing them. [Digital Composting via Ron Brinkmann]

Mirror Box + Digital Camera = Instant Holiday Desktop Wallpaper
Mirror Box + Digital Camera = Instant Holiday Desktop Wallpaper
Mirror Box + Digital Camera = Instant Holiday Desktop Wallpaper
Mirror Box + Digital Camera = Instant Holiday Desktop Wallpaper
Mirror Box + Digital Camera = Instant Holiday Desktop Wallpaper

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drag2share: iPhone Controlled Minimalist Coffee Maker Hides All the Hardware Under the Counter [Coffee Maker]

Source: http://gizmodo.com/5864767/iphone-controlled-minimalist-coffee-maker-hides-all-the-hardware-under-the-counter

iPhone Controlled Minimalist Coffee Maker Hides All the Hardware Under the CounterIf the minimalist aesthetic in your kitchen is cramping your ability to brew up a cup of joe whenever you need a caffeine boost, Scanomat's Top Brewer keeps all the grinding and brewing hardware under the counter, out of sight.

In fact all that's visible is a gooseneck dispenser sticking out of the top of the counter, a small grate for catching spills and sprays, and an LCD touchscreen UI that serves as an alternate way to order up your beverage if an iPhone or iPad isn't readily available. While some drinks require longer brewing times than others, on average the Top Brewer can produce up to four cups of coffee per minute, and is self-cleaning so you can walk away and enjoy your brew right away.

It even has what it boasts to be the smallest milk foamer in the industry, installed at the very tip of the dispenser where it heats and foams to the required texture as needed. And if coffee isn't your thing, the Top Brewer can be configured to dispense hot and cold water, milk, fruit juices or even just steam for blanching vegetables. Pricing is still TBA, but you can expect it to cater to those who don't mind paying a premium for a great cup of coffee. [Scanomat via Uncrate]

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drag2share: Samsung's two-faced SCH-W999 Android plays the dual core, dual SIM game

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/03/samsungs-two-faced-sch-w999-android-plays-the-dual-core-dual-s/

Remember Samsung's second-gen dual-screen Android clamshell we spotted about a month ago? Well, here it is at last: announced in partnership with China Telecom, this SCH-W999 flip phone packs two 3.5-inch 480 x 800 Super AMOLED panels back to back, along with a 1.2GHz dual-core Qualcomm MSM8660, Android 2.3 with TouchWiz, HyperSkin back cover (as featured on the Galaxy Nexus for grip plus anti-smear), five megapixel camera, Bluetooth 3.0, WiFi and WAPI (China's not-so-successful take on WiFi, basically).

Like many phones on China Telecom, the W999 comes with dual SIM slots and dual-mode connectivity (GSM and CDMA2000, with the latter offering EV-DO 3G), but with the additional support for penta-band radio for globetrotters. Want to nab one? We're looking at a 2012 launch, though there's no word on prices just yet -- well, just so you know, the predecessor W899 starts from ¥8990 ($1,410), so good luck with your garage sale. We got you some pictures from the China launch event after the break, courtesy of Samsung Mobile.

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drag2share: Samsung Galaxy Nexus for Verizon LTE hands-on (video)

Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/03/samsung-galaxy-nexus-for-verizon-lte-hands-on-video/

New Yorkers got a sneak peek at the Verizon LTE flavor of the Galaxy Nexus at the Samsung Experience in Columbus Circle today, and we dropped by to spend a few minutes with the Ice Cream Sandwich handset in the Manhattan showroom. Samsung had just four pre-production Nexus models on hand, which were running Android 4.0.1 -- not the final 4.1 version we're expecting to see shortly, with a baseband update in tow. None of the samples included SIM cards, so we were only able to test them using the built-in WiFi module. A security alarm sounded when we attempted to remove the back cover to install a SIM, though the battery was also superglued in place, further inhibiting our access.

We did take the unit for a speed test spin using our Verizon LTE MiFi, and achieved download speeds ranging from 5000-7000kbps and upload speeds of 300-2000kbps when connected to LTE over WiFi. These results don't represent what you'll see with the built-in module, but considering there was no way to get these running on the Verizon network, connectivity was limited to the MiFi and in-house WiFi. Still, this is your best shot at getting your hands on a device ahead of Verizon's official launch, so if you happen to be anywhere near NYC, head on down to the Samsung Experience to get your Nexus fix. Or hop past the break for our hands-on video.

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Saturday, December 03, 2011

drag2share: HOW TO: Tell If Your Android Phone Has Carrier IQ

Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-tell-if-your-phone-has-carrier-iq-2011-12


carrier iq detector

There's a lot of discrepancies and misinformation floating around out there as to which smartphones contain Carrier IQ.

Carrier IQ is the hidden software carriers and manufacturers install on phones to track your device's hardware performance. It can also track which apps you have installed and the URLs you visit. 

Right now, there's no easy way to remove it. Android users can root their phones to uninstall, but that should only be done by pros.

Until carriers give you an option for opting out of Carrier IQ, here's a quick and easy way to tell if your phone has it. Lookout Mobile Security, the same company that helps scan for malware on Android phones, just released a simple app that tells you if your phone has Carrier IQ.

All you do is boot it up and you get a clear message, either "Your device does not have Carrier IQ" or "Your device does have Carrier IQ."

You can download the app for free from the Android Market.

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